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the cry in the dark from Amon Tobin

Submitted by ibeaty on Fri, 2007-04-06 13:14.
Category: Editorial

Deep in the way-too flash-heavy website of Amon Tobin, the long time ninja tune producer, (whose stuff I love) blogs with gentle sadness about the state of his new record release in the wake of a it's widespread illegal download. This is a sad tale when told from the individual artist's perspective. My suggestions would be that he offer a donate button for his fans (he's got enough it would seem) and move to an on-demand service for mail order of the shiny-plastic bits. There is no reason why someone shouldn't be able to get a nice cd package if they still want, at least (and this does seem a bit backward) if they are prepared to order it online.

Poor sweet Amon.

Quote:
Mar 05, 2007

on leaked copies of foley room:

well the debate about illegal downloads has obviously been raging for some time. some blame it for the crisis the music industry is currently facing, others herald this as a new utopian era for the consumer. contrary to the oversimplified views sighted by both ends of the spectrum I believe this to be a fairly complex issue with radically different implications for different artists and labels.

with this in mind I see no point in entering into debate on the general issue here. nor would I consider it my place to tell people what they should or shouldn't do. all I can comment on with any certainty is how all this has affected me personally and in light of my nearing release this might be of interest to those of you who've expressed an interest in my music.

over the last few months I've received a surprising amount of mail from people who'd downloaded 'foley room'. the comments are very positive and many encourage me to "keep on doing what you're doing" for which I am thankful.

today, the release date for my album, it's unlikely that you will see it in most high street shops and after the initial run it's unlikely that you will be able to order a copy even from online stores. this is because in-spite of more people having access to and apparently listening to my music than ever before, the predicted sales of the record were so low that it didn't justify the manufacture or distribution to any significant level. strange? not when you consider how hard it might be to convince any retail outlet, physical or digital, that they should try and sell something everybody could already get for free months beforehand.

so what does this mean in the wider context? who the fuck knows. like I say I won't speculate on the wider picture and you can draw your own conclusions as to what this means with regards to my own future output. again I stress that I'm not talking about what should happen here. I'm not saying I should be able to 'keep on doing what I'm doing' or even that my record deserves to be bought. all I'm saying, mainly for the benefit of those who might otherwise have been unaware, is that if you personally like what I do and wish to continue hearing more then the only way that will happen is if you support it.

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Melodic Energy Commission I here ya Amon
Written by Melodic Energy Commission on Fri, 2007-04-06 18:31

It's kind of like having your pension funds taken by a corporate scandal. In these days of American troops lined up outside of another country just cleaning their weapons and anxious to rip off more foreign natural resources, I sit and wonder... what is wealth?

I, too, am obsessed with creating music recordings and am not too involved in live performances. So I've done my contemplating about the state of recording sales. This is not the dream world that I imagined, with my art form and catalogue supporting me into my golden years. What could have been steadily increasing sales, is now likely to result in no sales. Like Amon, this realization has on occasion depressed me.
However, if 'Bastard Fairies' can mutate and survive, riding a wave that wasn't there when we went to sleep, then why can't anyone. This entertainment business has always relied on imagination, spontaneity and creative reflexes kicking in, just when the going gets challenging.

Right now, if your music can make a troubled world laugh or smile and at the same time show compassion for those who are overly fearful of the future, then you might just atract a lot of attention. That's got to be a +PLUS+ for a musicians ego, from there, opportunity may just take you for a ride.

uberbelly Mutate and survive...
Written by uberbelly on Fri, 2007-04-06 18:54

adapt or die.

good post Ian and good comment MEC.

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However, if 'Bastard Fairies' can mutate and survive, riding a wave that wasn't there when we went to sleep, then why can't anyone. This entertainment business has always relied on imagination, spontaneity and creative reflexes kicking in, just when the going gets challenging.

I downloaded the Fairies album. I didn't steal it, they offered it for free.
I'm listening now and I have to say that it's quite wonderful!

j

Rouxbe Music yeah it's quite frustrating
Written by Rouxbe Music on Fri, 2007-04-13 02:06

yeah it's quite frustrating to read about Amon's disappointment with his fans here. I totally understand why he'd be upset. This is a guy who doesn't just release music for the sake of releasing it, his career has been a living and breathing beast that has yet to be tamed. His music defies all genres and boundaries that we have tried to place other artists' work in the past and for this i always highly anticipate each one of his releases since i started collecting them years ago.

as for what other groups are doing in the industry; i don't think it matters to him or ninja tune. if they want to release music on cds and vinyl (which btw "Foley Room" comes with a dvd), then nothing should stop them. yes the direction is going towards digital and a bit of creative commons but each artist is free to market themselves in any which way they wish, right?

i hope this experience doesn't discourage him from releasing more great experimental music in the future. if one thing is certain though, no matter how poor the record sales are i know his shows on this year's tour will sell exceptionally well. i have no doubt of that.

ibeaty Amon Tobin live?
Written by ibeaty on Thu, 2007-04-26 13:40

I trust that is true about successful tour stops for Mr Tobin. Slumping record sales certainly doesn't mean slumping numbers of fans, and I think he knows that and is in part frustrated by that.

Thought they tour plenty, I've often wondered about what an Amon Tobin or other ninja tune artist show would be like? Would they bring live musicians? What would actually be going on live? A picture tobin's music being created under rather carful painstaking conditions, not on the fly... but I might be wrong. Has anyone seen one?

keep the rock alive